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Oh hello, welcome to trained body and mind, a podcast exploring the cutting edge of holistic

fitness. I'm your host Jacqueline Byer. Each episode I connect with the world's leading

experts and athletes to talk about mindset, movement, nutrition, recovery, and sleep.

What we like to call the five facets of fitness. Today I'm talking with a sociologist whose

research focuses on the ideal female body, how that ideal has changed over time, and what's

behind it.

This is one of the problems with having a beauty standard at all. And we're in a moment

in which there are so many other types of figures that people want to valorize and prize.

And I think that's wonderful. But we have to acknowledge the fact that we still have

a standard that was rooted in colonization.

That's Dr. Sabrina Strings, a faculty member of the UC Irvine Department of Sociology. She's

also the author of Fearing the Black Body, a book that argues that colonization and racism

have played a major role in dictating what we now consider to be the ideal female form.

In this episode, Dr. Strings explains how we arrived at the thin ideal, and how that

journey has redefined our language, our culture, and even what we consider to be healthy versus

unhealthy.

Let's start with what many call the Rubenask figure. How did that emerge as an ideal and how

long did it last?

That's a great question. Interestingly enough, it's not one that I get that often. And

reality, when we're taking a look at the history of aesthetics, we can see that for a very

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