Like my brother's chores were top in firewood and feeding the animals and mowing lawn, like whatever it was outside, that was my brother's course and I had to do laundry and dishes.

And I wanted to be outside and I wanted to be climbing trees and cutting wood.

And my brothers were able to play football and they were on the wrestling team.

And I did volleyball and I did soccer and not because there's anything wrong with their sports,

but I wanted to wrestle and I wanted to play football.

And I just like, I wanted to kick ass. Like I like I wanted you know that physical

competition and like I'm just as strong as you and I'm just capable of you yeah just

to have something that I'm in charge of and I can do and I can do really well.

That kind of drove me and I finally found my name that nobody could tell me I couldn't do.

Greetings everyone.

everyone welcome or welcome back to the Billyang Podcast.

If you are joining for the first time my name is Bill Yang.

I'm a runner I am a filmmaker I'm a podcaster where I talk with interesting people from within the endurance community and beyond and

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