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That's classicalconversations.com forward slash joe. It's so fun to have my longtime friend Jenny

Allen on the show today. New York Times bestselling author, founder and visionary of the if gathering, and new mother of the bride. That's a fun one to add to the resume, Jenny. That is a fun one. It has been such a happy fun season with our kids right now. One of them just graduated from Texas A&M. Our second child just got married. It's just,

it's really fun to watch them become adults and, and just be such good friends with them. They are

my favorite people. And I adore our son-in-law. He is, I call him my favorite child because he,

I never had to change his diapers or punish him. And he's the nicest one to me. So he is my

favorite one right now. I love him. I really did that. You know, my birthday was not long ago. And my daughter

is at Baylor. So she's not here to sort of do the maternal, womanly instinctual things right around here

because we got a lot of testosterone going on here

with all the guys around my boys and my husband and all that.

It was around my birthday and I thought, well, there's no hope for any type of celebration

for me, which is fine.

I don't really care.

I'm not a great celebrator, Jenny, but it was a month out.

And my daughter-in-law texted and she said, okay, where are we going for your birthday?

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