Hi friend, summer is special on the Jesus Over Everything show, and I am especially excited about this summer, where I am highlighting some of my favorite conversations that you may or may not have heard.

Today, you're listening to our sister podcast, Ministry Strong, where I host conversations with my season one co-host, Dr. Joel Matamale and other special guests

discussing crucial topics relevant to the church.

Mark your calendars for an exciting season two starting in September and enjoy Joe featuring Ministry Strong right now.

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When I say Christian celebrity, what comes to your mind?

I think of millions of followers or thousands of followers on social media.

I think of the perfect life.

Kind of that picture, perfect filter, perfect life.

I think of immense influence and authority, speaking, traveling, going all over the place,

writing books.

I think of the life that many of us deep down in our hearts actually want, that we would

desire, kind of put together, articulate people, beautiful people. Yeah, I think of power,

control, authority, influence, all those things when it comes to celebrityism. And nice stuff.

I think, you ever notice that? Like, I feel like they just kind of have nice stuff. I'm a shoot person.

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