Hi friend, summer is special on the Jesus Over Everything show, and I am especially excited about this summer where I am highlighting some of my favorite conversations that you may or may not have heard.

Today you're listening to our sister podcast, Ministry Strong, where I host conversations with my season one co-host, Dr. Joel

Matamale and other special guests discussing crucial topics relevant to the church.

Mark your calendars for an exciting season two starting in September and enjoy Joe featuring Ministry Strong right now.

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Okay, Joel, so I want to give full disclosure here.

You and I are not sitting across from each other like we were for the rest of the shows because we have to

re-record this show. And we just prayed together for a few minutes. And I prayed for God to

realign my heart in that because we recorded all these shows together. And we had such an incredible time of just synergy

across the table. Now we're on video doing this, looking at each other. I told you, I don't even

remember what we talked about when we recorded this show for the first time. We had a corrupted

file. There was nothing we could do about it. It Had to re-record. But I'm in a different

place recording this now than I was, I don't know, three months ago when we recorded it. I don't know

what that means. I trust God in this. Are you in a different place talking about burnout and

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