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All right guys, Ben Stewart here today.

I am so excited. Ben, you're one of my favorite humans I I know that sounds like a really big statement

But you know everybody here I interview lots of people I like a lot of people. You really are life giving.

Like whenever I'm around you, I just am, I want to hang out with you and Donna more because you two are just both on fire.

There's something about you that like is always ready to go.

Like let's, in the name of your new book, Rest and War,

I'm like, I don't even know how perfect that is for you

because you're so easy and yet it does feel like we're always about to go to war when I'm with you.

So yes, yeah. I love that. Yeah, tell everybody about your family and kind of what you're doing right now.

I will do that and thank you Jenny.

We feel the same about you guys and we should hang out more like,

but yeah, we are not in Texas.

We are Texans. My amazingly talented wife Donna, we have three kids that are two girls and a boy that are nine, eight, and six.

So we tell people we're tired but happy.

But we live in Washington, D.C.

We've been here for five years now,

and we launched Passion City Church, D.C. about three and a half years ago.

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