Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of theology in the raw registration is open for next year's exiles in Babylon conference

We're going to be talking about the future of the church theology of disability in the church

Multiethnic perspectives on American Christianity and what will certainly be a fascinating

Dialogical debate or conversational debate surrounding

Christian approaches to the problem of evil and suffering all the information is on theology in the raw calm

So go ahead and go there. We do have some spots some early bird spots that at the time of recording

Oh, we're still open. They might be gone

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Theologinraw.com check it out my guest today is Dr. Gary brochures who is a professor of theology at Western

Seminary where he's been since 1980 this dude has been teaching at seminary

Almost as long as I've been alive he has an MDive from Denver seminary and a PhD in systematic theology from folder theological seminary Gary

Has been a mentor to literally I want to say thousands maybe more

Christian leaders this guy is just a discipling machine

And he also spoke at last year's exiles in Babylon conference in that dialogical debates around in the nature of hell with

Chris date, which was very

A fascinating conversation. So I want to have Gary on the to talk about his view of women in church leadership

He holds to a view where women can serve in all offices and positions in the church including teaching and preaching

The only office that women are are not able to serve in is the office of elder slash overseer

So it's an interesting position. There's a I think a growing number of people who hold to this view

And so I wanted him to come on the show and explain it all to us

So that's what we do in this in this episode

So please welcome to the show for the first time I can't believe this is the first time Gary's been on the show

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