Hi, welcome to the show Theology in the Raw. If my voice sounds a little different than the

usual voice that you're used to hearing, that's because I am not Preston. This is Chris, his wife,

and I had a wonderful interview this morning with Carrie Kampakis, and I wanted to take this

interview because I feel like her and I are in the same stage. She has four daughters, teenagers,

1917, I believe, 15 and 13, and we have three daughters and then a son and same ages. We have

the 1917, 15 and 13, and I want to talk to her because sometimes this stage can be difficult. It's

exciting, but we also just need encouragement and we need to have just some input and influence

in our parenting. And so we had a great talk. She has written several books. She just came out with

her latest book called More than a Mom, and it's about making sure that us moms stay healthy

and have our own lives and that we don't put all that we are into our kids because our kids are

going to leave. And we are people and we are people that God has created even before kids. So

fantastic book. And she's also written Love Her Well. She lives in Birmingham, Alabama, and she

is an author, a speaker, a podcaster, and a really interesting. She has so many resources on

her website. Check out her, and I think she has a lot of influence and just help for us moms,

and yeah, I hope you enjoy the show.

Welcome to the show. I'm so excited to have you on Theology Nara.

Thank you. I'm excited to be here. Yeah, thank you for having me.

Awesome. Well, why don't we start off and tell me a little bit about yourself and just your life

and all your kids? Okay. Well, I live in Birmingham, Alabama,

married. It wasn't my college sweetheart, but I met him in college and we started dating a year

after. His name is Harry, and we have four daughters. The oldest one just finished her freshman

year in college. She's at Auburn, and then second daughters are rising senior, and then also a

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