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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S9 Ep18: Do No Harm w/ Mike Hixenbaugh

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.67.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Investigative Reporter Mike Hixenbaugh joins Bob to discuss his hit Wondery Original podcast series "Do No Harm." The podcast follows the journey of two sets of parents who suffered through unthinkable hardships, as they fought to keep CPS from taking their children.


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0:00.0

From NBI Studios, this is Truth Injustice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

0:15.9

I'm Bob Run.

0:30.0

If you've never had any dealings with child protective services, then you probably believe

0:38.0

that, as their name suggests, the organization exists solely to protect children.

0:43.9

And for the most part, that's exactly why they exist.

0:48.0

CPS workers are saddled with the extremely difficult task of determining when it's in

0:52.8

a child's best interest to be removed from their homes.

0:56.8

Certainly, there are times when this is exactly what needs to happen.

1:00.6

Unfortunately, on many occasions, the agency does more harm than good.

1:07.4

NBC News reporter Mike Hicksonbaugh hosts the Wondery Original Podcast series, Do Know Harm.

1:14.0

Through the podcast, Mike takes the listeners along for the journey of a family who was targeted

1:18.7

by a flawed system, and has had to fight with everything they had to protect their child

1:24.8

from the child protective services.

1:27.6

Mike is here with me today to take us behind the scenes.

1:31.9

This is season 9, episode 18, Do Know Harm.

1:43.3

Texas Ranger James Holland is a legendary interrogator.

1:46.9

They call him the serial killer whisperer.

1:48.8

You can't hide those indications, and that's why yesterday I knew that you did it.

1:52.9

But now, shocking interrogation tapes reveal how the super cop really operates.

1:57.7

And that's why they ask me to come in, because I'm special.

2:00.4

From something else, the Marshall Project and Sony Music Entertainment, this is Smoke Screen.

2:05.1

Just say you're sorry.

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