S9, Ep 5: The out-of-state witness subpoenas

Breakdown

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Politics, News, True Crime

4.6 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The fifth episode of “The Trump Grand Jury,” the ninth season of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Breakdown podcast, recaps a busy period for the special purpose grand jury investigating former President Donald Trump and his allies. There are a flurry of witnesses coming in to testify about what happened at the state Capitol in the weeks after the November 2020 presidential election. There is a courtroom scuffle over legislative immunity. And there is the issuance of seven out-of-state material witness subpoenas that penetrate former president Trump’s inner circle. Recipients of the subpoenas include attorneys Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman and Cleta Mitchell. Also on the receiving end was U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. In an interview with Breakdown, District Attorney Fani Willis said the pushback was expected. You can download the Breakdown podcast from Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher or your favorite podcasting platform. You can also stream it on your computer from ajc.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's worth knowing which is really going on.
0:04.0	This is the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
0:12.0	Previously on Breakdown.
0:14.0	And the president was as mad as I've ever seen him.
0:16.0	And he was trying to control himself.
0:18.0	And the president said, well, this is killing me.
0:21.0	You didn't have to say this.
0:23.0	You must have said this because you hate Trump.
0:25.0	You hate Trump.
0:26.0	We interviewed the FBI, interviewed the individuals that are depicted in the videos.
0:32.0	There's purportedly were double triple counting of the ballots.
0:35.0	And determined that nothing irregular happened in the counting.
0:39.0	And the allegations made by Mr. Giuliani were false.
0:44.0	You know, again, I think one of the things we need to realize is the president,
0:47.0	the former president, may very likely try to raise a defense that the fraud existed.
0:53.0	That he had the belief that there was fraud.
0:57.0	And he was acting on that belief.
0:59.0	And there's various other defenses that he could also use for any of these crimes.
1:04.0	But the law is clear that even if he thought he was doing the right thing,
1:10.0	you cannot violate the laws to be able to achieve that objective.
1:15.0	In episode five, we recap some significant work by the special purpose grand jury investigating
1:20.0	former president Donald Trump and his allies.
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