How many independents are going to vote in either side, if that's allowed in some states,

in a state where you have open primaries, are independents going to lean more towards the Democratic side,

as opposed to the Republican side, are they going to sit it out, and it's going to wait for November?

It'll be interesting to see, but overall, I think, John, the key is what you talked about in the Gallup

poll, is the concern about the economy. It would be so easy to chalk this up to say,

well, Democrats don't like the Trump, anything Trump does, so they're going to oppose his economic

policies. But you're seeing independence and even Republicans that are very, very concerned about the state of the economy, not only at present, but going forward, and that votes very, very ill for Republican candidates whoever they nominate in these primaries.

The voters on primary day is a hardcore voter.

Generally, yes.

The turnout is very low compared to a presidential year,

even a regular congressional election year,

which is this is primary for that in November.

The turnout will be heavier in November goes to theory.

Everything is different, as you say.

But these numbers show a sharp change in direction of American consumers on the basis

of the Trump administration now.

We're far enough away from Joe Biden's economic policies of the summer of 24 to identify that this looks like the

independence, let's stay there, are voting thumbs down for the present economy.

Is that something that can be adjusted at the presidential level, at the senatorial level,

at the congressional level? How do youial level, at the congressional level,

how do you adjust to what appears to be a warning sign for the general election?

Well, first, on the issue of who's voting in the primaries, obviously they're the hardcore

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