S8 Ep958: STREAMING THE MAKING OF JBS, FEATURING BILL ROGGIO AND JONATYN SAYEH, 6-1-26. 1994 YEMEN,
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STREAMING THE MAKING OF JBS, FEATURING BILL ROGGIO AND JONATYN SAYEH, 6-1-26.
1994 YEMEN,
The provided transcripts from The John Batchelor Show feature discussions with Bill Roggio and Jonathan Sayehregarding escalating military tensions and diplomatic instability across the Middle East and Africa. The sources analyze the Strait of Hormuz as a primary global flashpoint while examining localized conflicts in Lebanon, Syria, Somalia, and Gaza. Expert commentary highlights the skepticism surrounding a rumored ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran, suggesting instead that both nations remain locked in a cycle of defensive strikes and proxy warfare. Furthermore, the participants evaluate the internal stability of the Iranian regime, noting that domestic repression and internet censorship continue despite the country's economic isolation. The dialogue ultimately underscores a lack of unified American foreign policy and the persistent threat posed by jihadist groups like al-Qaeda and Hezbollah. Overarching themes include the difficulty of achieving lasting peace when adversaries utilize asymmetric warfare to exploit shifting political administrations in Washington.
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| 0:00.0 | The |
| 0:07.0 | The Good day. This is the making of the John Bachelor show. I am he. I'm joined by my good colleague of many decades. Bill Rajo, senior fellow for the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, keeps the Long War Journal. And we will attend to that in a moment. I wanted to read some headlines to illustrate what appears to be the chaotic nature of the Straits of Hormuz and the conflict over same, |
| 1:04.0 | in addition to the other Eurasian wars underway. |
| 1:08.7 | That would be in Lebanon, that would be in Ukraine, certainly in the Gulf. |
| 1:14.1 | We can talk about it in many pieces. There's a conflict zone, wherever, whatever time zone you're |
| 1:21.0 | in. For the chaos, for example, from London. France ceases sanctioned Russian oil tanker. Britain supports naval operation |
| 1:30.4 | against Putin's shadow fleet off the coast of Brittany. Or Trump lifts straight of Hormuz's naval |
| 1:37.3 | blockade at the same time. Trump tells U.S. just sit back and relax after strikes. U.S. conduct self-defense attacks on Iranian radar and drone control sites. |
| 1:50.3 | Falcon flies over the Middle East during a patrol, the photograph that were provided, |
| 1:56.2 | a little PR of a U.S. F-16 flying over combat zones. What we're looking at here from London's |
| 2:05.1 | point of view is not coherent. I go to the F.T. for coherence. No. U.S. and Iran launched |
| 2:13.3 | fresh strikes as peace efforts continue. Washington and Tehran are still trying to formalize a ceasefire. |
| 2:21.4 | In other words, the ceasefire that we were told was in place as of Friday afternoon or Saturday afternoon |
| 2:28.3 | is no longer a ceasefire. It is a ceasefire that is being worked upon. |
| 2:36.4 | I don't draw any conclusions from this, |
| 2:41.3 | and Bill and I will come back to it. However, we're going to spend time with the fact that the conflict zone is much more than the Strait of Hormuz, or much more than whatever Tehran says |
| 2:47.5 | and whatever the Washington administration responds with, it includes the whole |
| 2:54.3 | of the region. |
| 2:55.6 | And we will begin with a report from the Long War Journal reminding you that this is a very |
| 3:02.0 | good intelligence, first-rate intelligence, that major news services reflect, depend upon, do not have room to spend |
| 3:11.5 | on the attention that Bill and his colleagues give to it. So if you're interested or understanding |
| 3:19.7 | of the multiple conflicts going on and how Washington is responding to this variously. |
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