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This is John Batchel. Conversation with my colleague Henry Sikolsky of the Non-Proliferation Policy

Education Centre about the NPT review underway in the month of May into June,

ending now. And did it take on the hard question of do countries have the right to enrichment?

Do countries have the right to reprocessing? Henry looks at it philosophically. The argument is worth having, win or lose. And what about enforcement? Here's Henry to lay out what the NPT can take on. Challenging dissent, challenging those who will not obey rules. Yes, a nuclear-free world is utopian.

Therefore, it can be aspirational.

Here's Henry.

More tonight.

Well, let's say the glass is half, not half full, a quarterful.

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