S8 Ep905: Mary Kissel discusses differing interpretations of the Trump-Xi summit, focusing on "strategic stability." She expresses concern over managed trade and the lack of consensus regarding North Korea's denuclearization and Chinese human rights abuses. (9/16)
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🗓️ 21 May 2026
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| 1:04.1 | colleague, Mary Kissel, senior fellow for the Hudson Institute, to help me understand how to interpret the remains of the day of the meeting between President Donald T. Trump and the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, Xi Jinping. It took place in the Forbidden City with working lunches. It was a less than state visit. However, there were a lot of major stories that came out of it so far. |
| 1:30.6 | Chiefly, each side has its own interpretation of what happened and what was talked about. |
| 1:36.2 | Mary has been in many of these meetings what was talked about and what was said at odds, |
| 1:42.0 | former senior advisor to the Secretary of State, Mr. Pompeo, |
| 1:45.0 | in the first Trump term. So, Mary, because there are different readouts, so-called, |
| 1:50.7 | there are different versions of what was achieved or skipped in the meeting in Beijing. |
| 1:56.9 | What are those readouts? How are they arranged and are they fact-checked? What do you do when one side says it happened? The other side says it didn't. Good evening to you. |
| 2:06.2 | Good evening to you, John. It's great to be with you. Well, summits like this between two powers are always very carefully managed. |
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