S8 Ep886: Professor Sean McMeekin explains that Joseph Stalin's core strategy was to allow capitalist "monster nations" like France, Germany, and England to exhaust each other before he intervened to expand the Russian Empire. This vision was realized through Harry
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 18 May 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:10.8 | Speaking with Professor Sean McMakin of Bard College, the author of the new book, |
| 0:15.2 | Stalin's War, a new history of war war, too. From the point of view of Joseph Stalin, |
| 0:20.7 | who inherits from Vladimir Lennon, the, from the point of view of Joseph Stalin, who inherits from Vladimir |
| 0:22.5 | Lenin, the thinking, the theory, set the imperialist capitalist states against each other. Do not |
| 0:29.1 | enter the war until the end and gobble up territory, recover the Russian Empire, and more, |
| 0:35.3 | create the power of the earth by watching the monster nations of France |
| 0:42.1 | and Germany, those in England, those were the three that Stalin had in mind, battle each other |
| 0:49.1 | just as they did in the Great War. The U.S., of course, was a new consideration for Stalin, |
| 0:55.6 | and now comes a mystery that Sean presents to us in his book. |
| 1:00.3 | I said the Battle of Moscow turns on a couple of details, |
| 1:04.1 | the frozen ground, followed by the muddy ground, |
| 1:07.7 | the exhausted German invasion, the exhausted Russian defenders. However, six months |
| 1:12.9 | earlier, a man named Harry Hopkins, representing the President of the United States, lands in what |
| 1:19.5 | Sean gives us the detail, an American Douglas Transport Craft. After a four-hour flight, he lands |
| 1:25.1 | at Moscow. Sean, what is the mission to Moscow for Harry Hopkins? |
| 1:30.6 | Who is he? |
| 1:31.4 | And what does he accomplish? |
| 1:34.0 | Well, I think the purpose of Hopkins trip to Moscow was to establish a very direct channel |
| 1:39.8 | of communication between Roosevelt and Stalin, to some extent, to try to find out what the odds of survival |
| 1:46.7 | were, except that Hopkins, I think, was already convinced that Russia would survive. In fact, |
| 1:51.4 | he already saw the U.S. military attach, Colonel Ivan Yeaton, is kind of an enemy because Yeaton had |
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