This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelors with Admiral James Stavridis.

United States Navy retired. His new book is To Risk It All, nine conflicts and the crucible of decision.

We're taking lessons learned. We go now to lesson five, do not get emotionally involved.

I, just with Jim, this seems to be a filter that admirals have to go through when they,

because the examples in his book are Farragut and then Dewey learning from Farragut.

And then Halsey in the Lady Golf, and actually through his career,

the raid on the marshals in 42 and certainly the Doolittle Raid. And then Michelle Howard,

not get emotionally involved. What does that mean as an admiral, knowing you're going to be

blamed if something goes wrong? Well, let's start with the point that all of these stories give us any of us good lessons

because everyone sooner or later faces a moment where you must risk at all, be it at a mass

shooting, be it standing on a beach when someone's drowning in front of you,

be it when an ATV goes over the side on a mountain trail, you have to scramble down to help

someone. Everyone faces these moments. And so I'll start by not describing how admirals

don't get emotionally involved, but I'll quote from the greatest book of leadership ever written,

and that would be The Godfather by Mario Puzzo.

Don't forget Don Corleone talking to Santino and saying,

never make the mistake of hating your enemies.

It clouds your judgment.

And that is pretty germane in any walk of life. But yes, for admirals, it is

certainly true. And you mentioned four of them. All of them, to one degree or another, need to

detach themselves from the emotion of the moment. The one who fails to do so is Admiral,

Fleet Admiral Bill Halsey,

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