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S8 Ep884: When the spacecraft arrived at Bennu in late 2018, the team was shocked to find a rugged, boulder-strewn surface instead of the expected sandy "beach." Bennu revealed itself as a "trickster" and an "active asteroid," frequently ejecting rock particles int

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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When the spacecraft arrived at Bennu in late 2018, the team was shocked to find a rugged, boulder-strewn surface instead of the expected sandy "beach." Bennu revealed itself as a "trickster" and an "active asteroid," frequently ejecting rock particles into space like "popcorn." These surprises forced the team to abandon their original laser-guided landing plan for a more sophisticated "Bullseye TAG" autonomous system. During the eventual sample collection at the "Nightingale" site, the asteroid's surface behaved like a fluid; the collector plunged so deep it became overfilled, causing precious material to leak into space. (3/4)
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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Patcher, visiting with Professor Dante S. Loretta.

0:10.5

His new book is The Asteroid Hunter, a scientist journey to the dawn of our solar system.

0:16.4

We're now in space. The asteroid Benu is approaching perihelian, meaning that it's close to the sun.

0:27.1

The perfectly built Osiris rec spacecraft has approached it over a time period in which they

0:34.7

count out at the Mike Drake building in Arizona.

0:38.0

They count each day, 438, 437, 436.

0:42.4

Well, it's just days left.

0:45.2

And we're now accompanying Benu.

0:49.0

However, there are surprises.

0:51.0

And one surprise is there's no beach.

0:54.1

What beach, professor?

0:55.0

What were you looking for?

0:57.0

Yeah, we mentioned that we discovered the asteroid in 1999, and it comes close to the Earth every six years.

1:04.0

So in 2005, when we selected it as our target, we performed an unprecedented telescopic astronomical

1:10.0

astronomical campaign.

1:11.6

And two key instruments that we used were the Erescebo planetary radar system, which was based in Puerto Rico,

1:18.6

and the Spitzer Space Telescope, which is part of NASA's Great Observatories program.

1:23.6

Both of those suggested the average size of particles on the surface of the asteroid

1:29.3

was smaller than an inch or so. And when you have two pieces of information that give you the same

1:35.5

conclusion, you start to build a lot of scientific confidence. And we thought that meant it was

1:40.1

going to be gravelly or sandy on the surface and very easy to pick up particles.

1:44.7

So when we talked about those reviews in front of NASA, I got up there and presented all the

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