Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of Theology and the Raw. I have on the show today a very, very good friend of mine. Dr. Ed

Yuzinski, we go way back and so we are able to have lots of just super raw

engaging, challenging conversations with with each other. Ed's just an amazing thinker as an amazing heart and he did a PhD in American studies

from Bowling Green University and basically lived

eight, slapped and breath, critical race theory for three or four years and so this guy is very well

acquainted with the critical theory conversation. I mean he's been engaged in the race conversation

for many decades really and so he's always a great dialogue partner and in this conversation

we do we get into the race conversation. I'm very well aware that we're two white guys talking

about it. Hopefully this podcast can be put in the context of many other conversations. I've had

about race with other people of color, other white people, other people who are interested in the

conversation and I think you'll appreciate how both both at an eye come out this conversation

acknowledging that we are not of color that we are white that we are that we are limited in our

perspective on this conversation and yet I always appreciate everything that comes out of Ed's

mouth. So we we man we get really raw and vulnerable in this conversation especially towards the end.

I mean there's I actually re-list into this conversation and just to be totally honest with you guys

like I'm not 100% excited about how this conversation ended at the end like we just we are talking openly

and thinking through different things and I even debated should I even release this conversation

I'm like you know what this is the origin of raw we're all in a journey we're all working out of

thoughts and so I'm just I'm gonna release it man so this is us on our journey thinking through

this really important conversation. Dr. Edgesinski you can find them on Twitter if you can spell his

last name it's all in the show notes I hardly even know how to spell his last name even though I'm

known him for like 15 years but he's been working for athletes in action for a number of years

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