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S8 Ep876: Same-Sex Attracted, Sexually Pure, and...Unfit for Ministry? Dr. Greg Johnson

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🗓️ 17 June 2021

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Greg grew up as a gay atheist in DC area and converted to Christianity at UVA  in 1990. He has a PhD in historical theology and serves as the lead pastor of Memorial Presbyterian Church (PCA) in St. Louis. He’s also the author of the forthcoming book, Still Time to Care: What We Can Learn from the Church Failed Attempt to Cure Homosexuality (Zondervan, Sept 2021). 

Greg is 49 years old and has never touched another human in a romantic way, and yet he has been brought up on charges for being unfit to be a pastor for issues related to sexualtiy by some people in his Presbyterian denomination. This conversation will be difficult to comprehend for some of you, but it’s important to understand how some fundamentalist Christians think. We also talk about the history of evangelical approaches to homosexuality and the role that the Ex-gay movement has played in this trajectory. Oh, and we also bring up C.S. Lewis’ struggle with Sadomasochism (think: 50 Shades of Grey). Anyway, lots of interesting stuff in this episode! 

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0:00.0

Can someone be cured of their homosexuality?

0:05.2

Or another way of saying it is,

0:06.6

can somebody go from gay to straight?

0:09.3

Can somebody change their sexual orientation?

0:12.6

This has been a hot button issue in the church

0:15.9

over the last several decades.

0:18.0

And it's been really hard really to have a conversation

0:22.7

about this topic.

0:24.2

There's lots of people on one side who says,

0:26.6

God absolutely can change people's sexual orientation.

0:31.1

On the other side, there are those who see it as immoral

0:35.6

to even try to change someone's sexual orientation.

0:38.9

There's others who would simply say that,

0:41.3

for whatever reason, this isn't the way

0:42.9

God has chosen to work.

0:45.4

And there's all kinds of other variations

0:47.5

in between these various views.

0:49.7

Great Johnson, Dr. Great Johnson,

0:51.6

is on the side of being very critical

0:54.6

against sexual orientation change efforts.

0:59.3

Greg is gay or same-sex attracted.

1:03.2

We talked about the different terms there.

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