S8 Ep828: STREAM MAKING OF JBS, FEATURING BILL ROGGIO AND GORDON CHANG, 5-4-26 1664

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STREAM MAKING OF JBS, FEATURING BILL ROGGIO AND GORDON CHANG, 5-4-26
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The provided text is a transcript from the John Batchelor Show, detailing a complex geopolitical crisis involving the United States, Iran, and China. Central to the discussion is a reported confrontation in the Strait of Hormuz, where Iranian media claimed to have struck a U.S. Navy frigate with missiles. While U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM)denies any ships were hit, the incident coincides with Project Freedom, a Trump administration initiative to escort stranded vessels through the blockade. Beyond the naval standoff, the sources address a severe terror threat in Londonlinked to Iranian proxies and the rising dominance of drone warfare. The dialogue further explores Al-Qaeda’s expanding influence in Africa and the political instability currently facing Mali and Somalia. Finally, experts examine the economic consequences of these conflicts, noting significant growth downgrades for Asian economies and the strategic maneuvering of China as it balances its support for Iran with vital trade interests.

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0:00.0	The
0:07.0	The Good day. This is the making of the John Batschle show. Welcome. My colleague and friend Bill Rajio, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, as a senior fellow, keeps the long word journal. And we will begin today, not with the report of the day's events in these past days, but with what appears to
0:56.2	be news coming from the Middle East and from CENTCOM and from Doha and from Jerusalem. The news is
1:04.3	what is being reported, not confirmed, reported, fog of war, about the U.S. Navy and the IRGC and the claim by the IRGC
1:16.0	that the Straits of Formuz are closed and the claim by the U.S. Navy that it has also closed the
1:22.7	Straits of Formoos, except over the weekend the President of the United States directed the U.S. Navy to escort some vessels through the Straits of Formuz.
1:32.3	That's what we knew until now.
1:35.3	I'm joined by Bill to help me understand the reporting.
1:40.3	What I have is an Al Jazeera report earlier.
1:44.7	Al Jazeera is based in Doha.
1:46.8	It is friendly to the Qatari government, very friendly.
1:50.4	The Qatari government is in league with different players in this contest, one of which has been Iran.
1:58.2	Might not be now, but it has been.
2:01.0	Al Jazeera reports two missiles hit a U.S. frigate in the Strait of be now, but it has been. Al Jazeera reports,
2:02.2	two missiles hit a U.S. frigate in the Strait of Hormuz
2:04.4	after it ignored warnings from Iran's Navy to halt.
2:07.7	State media quoted the army as saying,
2:12.4	with the U.S. military saying no such attack occurred.
2:16.3	The reported attack came after U.S. President Donald Trump
2:19.5	announced a naval mission dubbed Project Freedom to guide stranded ships out of the Strait of Hormuz
2:25.8	in these last hours. Bill, I come to you because you have Jerusalem and Sencom. Good day to you, Bill.
2:33.0	Good day, John. Yes. Interesting morning.
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