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S8 Ep812: "The Asymmetry of Redistricting Rulings." GUEST: Richard Epstein Professor Richard Epstein critiques the Supreme Court for banning race-based redistricting while permitting political gerrymandering, arguing that frequent, partisan reapportionments are a "

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🗓️ 1 May 2026

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"The Asymmetry of Redistricting Rulings." GUEST: Richard Epstein Professor Richard Epstein critiques the Supreme Court for banning race-based redistricting while permitting political gerrymandering, arguing that frequent, partisan reapportionments are a "disaster" for democracy.

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0:00.0

This is John Batchel. A conversation with my colleague Richard Epstein, Professor Richard Epstein,

0:04.8

about the recent Supreme Court decision with regard to Louisiana and the redrawing of

0:10.8

congressional districts not allowed because it was done on the basis presumption of race. However,

0:17.4

this is pointing up to what Richard finds inconsistent with the court rulings and the application of how to divide up a state into congressional districts.

0:28.8

If I understand correctly, there is no attention to those states who use politics.

0:35.0

In other words, how you vote to pile up and to gerrymander.

0:38.7

Put all of the troublesome opposition in this congressional district,

0:44.6

and then you'll have narrow majorities for your side and all the other CDs.

0:49.0

Here Richard explains the inequality, the imbalance, the plain hypocrisy of CDs permitting politics, but nothing else

1:01.3

to rule the decision-making. Richard Epstein, more tonight.

1:05.7

So what happens is, no, so what you've done is you've now pointed out the asymmetry

1:09.9

and rightly so.

1:11.8

On the voting stuff, you have an explicit amendment, which was designed to protect against

1:16.3

this kind of behavior, whether by people in favor of minorities or in favor of majorities.

1:20.9

There is no similar constraint with respect to political gerrymandering.

1:24.7

What they could have done in Rucho is that this is such a terrible problem,

1:29.2

we're going to have a rule which prevents you from cracking and stacking, from putting all

1:33.9

the guys whom we don't like into one district and giving us large control by small majorities and

1:39.0

a great many others. That's what they still allow. And so it happens, and that's what the New York

1:43.7

Times editorial morning said today,

1:45.5

we get hit by the 14th Amendment.

1:48.0

They get hit by nothing.

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