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S8 Ep809: 14. Headline: Dismantling Free Trade: The Trump Administration's Attack on USMCA Guest: Mary Anastasia O'Grady Summary: The Trump administration is seeking to renegotiate or dismantle the USMCA, preferring protectionist tariffs over a "fortress North Amer

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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14. Headline: Dismantling Free Trade: The Trump Administration's Attack on USMCA Guest: Mary Anastasia O'Grady Summary: The Trump administration is seeking to renegotiate or dismantle the USMCA, preferring protectionist tariffs over a "fortress North America" approach. Mary Anastasia O'Grady warns that these policies will increase consumer prices and damage the global competitiveness of American companies by disrupting integrated regional supply chains. 14
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Southeastern. I'm John Batchel. Mary Anastasia, the America's editor for the Wall Street Journal editorial page, writing about the renegotiation or extended negotiation or planned conversation

0:57.0

about USMCA. The success of these last years to do with Canada, Mexico, and the United States

1:04.4

trading among themselves. I believe the number is $1.8 trillion. It's a big number.

1:12.7

These are our primary trade partners.

1:14.9

But, Mary, good evening to you.

1:22.2

Right away in your column, you make it clear that the president is not a fan of free trade.

1:22.7

What?

1:24.4

What does that mean, Mary?

1:28.8

A Republican, not in favor of free trade?

1:30.9

What is his version of the world?

1:33.9

Not only is he not in favor of free trade.

1:34.7

Good evening, John.

1:42.5

He is not in favor of Fortress North America, which is one alternative to total open globalization. You want to defeat China.

1:47.4

You need to work with a low-cost labor producer and other countries that have comparative advantages that complement your economy. And what do we have?

1:55.4

We sit right in the middle of a continent where we have partners who do exactly that. And that's used to be the North American

2:03.2

Free Trade Agreement. It's now called the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement. But basically, it's free

2:09.5

trade among the three countries, taking advantage of better ways to use capital in different markets, different labor markets, different agricultural

2:21.3

markets and so forth. It's perfect. It works so well. But Donald Trump doesn't like it. He wants

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