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S8 Ep809: 12. Headline: Ukraine's Drone Mastery: Redefining Modern Warfare Against Russia Guest: Colonel Jeff McCausland Summary: Ukraine has become a global leader in drone technology, using innovative systems to neutralize Russian forces and equipment. This techn

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🗓️ 1 May 2026

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12. Headline: Ukraine's Drone Mastery: Redefining Modern Warfare Against Russia Guest: Colonel Jeff McCausland Summary: Ukraine has become a global leader in drone technology, using innovative systems to neutralize Russian forces and equipment. This technological edge has forced Russia to scale back its Victory Dayparade, signaling a fundamental shift in how modern wars are fought at long distances. 12
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0:00.0

I'm John Basswood, Colonel Jeff McCausen, United States Army retired, CBS News, Dickinson College, Diamond Sixth leadership and strategy.

0:25.2

A strange event has happened in Ukraine. Both sides are turning into drone masters. Russia has recently stood up a whole polytechnic university to recruit young men. I presume it's young men, they don't say it, but that's the

0:39.7

presumption, who are good at video games and train them to be drone operators at long distances.

0:46.8

In other words, attack drones, suicide drones. They're building more and more of them bigger and

0:50.9

better payloads. In the same instance, Ukraine has become the boutique of the

0:56.5

world for drone technology, exporting its builders and designers to the Gulf and to other states.

1:05.2

Jeff, we're moving into what appears to be a new understanding of warfare, or is it just temporal?

1:12.3

No, it's actually a whole new type of warfare job.

1:15.6

We talked about the war in Ukraine for a long time now, over four years, and we sat at the onset

1:20.7

and reminded us of World War I, because the killer on the battlefield at the onset was

1:26.3

initially the anti-tank

1:28.3

weapon that the Ukrainians used to great effect.

1:32.1

And then, of course, it was artillery, not unlike World War I.

1:35.3

And the question became, who could develop the most 155 artillery rounds seem to have

1:40.6

the upper hand.

1:43.0

One reason why the Russians signed an agreement with the North Koreans was the North Koreans

1:47.0

had lots of 155 artillery shells or 152 perhaps, and they could produce a lot more.

1:52.3

But over time, then, we went to the drone and the system of the drone, whereby the drone

1:56.6

can acquire a target.

1:58.2

The system can communicate that quickly to a processor. Processor can pick a

2:02.7

platform to engage that target. Prioritories prioritize the target, get the information to the platform,

2:08.8

be it another drone, artillery, aircraft, missile, whatever, and engage. And the Ukrainians have found

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