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S8 Ep807: STREAMING MAKING OF THE JBS, FEATURING GORDON CHANG, VICTORIA COATES, MARK SIMON, STEVE YATES, 4-29-26 "SEND YOUR BINOCULARS TO THE NAVY"

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🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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STREAMING MAKING OF THE JBS, FEATURING GORDON CHANG, VICTORIA COATES, MARK SIMON, STEVE YATES, 4-29-26
"SEND YOUR BINOCULARS TO THE NAVY"

This transcript from The John Bachelor Show explores the shifting dynamics of the special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom, specifically under the leadership of Prime Minister Keir Starmer. The participants argue that Britain’s global influence is declining, citing military inadequacies and a failure to protect strategic assets like Diego Garcia. The conversation then transitions to the dire health of imprisoned Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai, framing his treatment as a symbol of the Chinese Communist Party's uncompromising authoritarianism. Furthermore, the experts analyze a potential summit between Donald Trump and Xi Jinping, questioning whether such a meeting is appropriate while China supports adversaries like Iran and Russia. Ultimately, the speakers advocate for a tougher stance against the "devil's triangle" of Beijing, Moscow, and Tehran, suggesting that the U.S. should prioritize newer European allies like Poland over traditional partners.

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Dan's in.

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Jen's in.

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0:27.1

Southeastern. I'm. I'm

0:38.3

. Good morning. This is the making of the John Bachelor show. The significant fact of the morning from Bloomberg News is that the foreign minister of Iran is in Moscow for a meeting and chat with Vladimir Putin. In other words, move the bishop to threatening

1:31.5

the night. In any event, we're going to turn to another matter entirely, which is much older

1:36.6

than the concerns of the relationships in the 21st century. That is, the relationship between

1:42.3

Washington and the mothership itself, London.

1:46.9

Once upon a time, America today was a colony of the British Empire,

1:53.4

and that broke down famously events called the Revolution.

1:58.1

But here we are in the 21st century, and there may be a breakdown again,

2:03.9

two people separated by a common language, maybe at work. So Gordon Chang joins me as my colleague and co-host,

2:11.2

and we're going to begin immediately with a conversation on this matter of the special relationship.

2:15.7

It's always in quotes. With, excuse me, we're going to the special relationship. It's always in quotes.

2:24.2

With Victor, excuse me, we're going to begin a relationship conversation with Victoria Coates, the vice president of the Heritage Foundation.

2:27.4

Victoria and Gordon, a very good morning to you.

2:29.5

We will begin immediately because I love this topic.

2:33.3

I just, what could have been, the what if of history?

2:37.6

Four, three, two, one.

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I'm John Batchelor.

2:42.6

I welcome Gordon Chang at Gordon-Chi Chang, my colleague and co-host, and Victoria

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