S8 Ep778: STREAMING MAKING OF THE JOHN BATCHELOR SHOW, FEATURING BILL ROGGIO AND JANATYN SAYEH, 4-20-26. 1688 PERSIA GULF
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🗓️ 21 April 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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STREAMING MAKING OF THE JOHN BATCHELOR SHOW, FEATURING BILL ROGGIO AND JANATYN SAYEH, 4-20-26. 1688 PERSIA GULF
The Levant and Eurasia are currently gripped by what analysts describe as the "fog of peace," a state where a ceasefire is technically in place but characterized by profound distrust and a lack of transparency. While the conflict between the United States, Israel, and Iran originally centered on Iran's nuclear weapons program, the focus has shifted toward an intractable struggle over the Strait of Hormuz.
The Strait has become a primary flashpoint of "open/closed" chaos, likened to a "Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd" hunting season metaphor. The US has established a naval blockade, recently using a destroyer's main gun to disable the engine room of an Iranian cargo ship that attempted to run the blockade. Iran counters this by creating confusion, such as firing on an Indian tanker that reportedly had clearance from the IRGC to pass, a tactic designed to make international shipping reconsider the route entirely.
Diplomatically, the situation is stalled. Planned talks in Islamabad between US representatives and the Islamic Republicare not moving forward. This deadlock is exacerbated by a structural shift in Iranian leadership. Following the assassination of the Supreme Leader and other top officials, decision-making has fallen to a five-man council of dedicated revolutionaries. These individuals, often categorized as "hardliners" rather than "pragmatists," view compromise under pressure as a sign of weakness and are wary of suffering the same fate as Muammar Gaddafi. This new leadership is believed to be radical and intractable, with many members rising from the younger, hardcore ranks of the regime.
Internally, the regime is employing brutal measures to maintain control. There are chilling reports that Iran has developed aerosol fentanyl — a chemical weapon capable of killing large populations — and may have experimentally used it against domestic protesters as early as 2022. The regime's fear of internal unrest is further evidenced by the deployment of checkpoints staffed by non-Iranian proxies to suppress a population demoralized by economic exasperation and a perceived lack of external backing. Precursors for these chemical experiments are reportedly provided by China.
The geopolitical timeline appears to favor Tehran. Iranian leaders believe they can "run out the clock" on the Trumpadministration. The US faces significant domestic constraints, including low presidential poll numbers and the impending 2026 midterm elections, which could return the House of Representatives to Democratic control and trigger a return to the "age of impeachment." Additionally, Russia and China have strategic incentives to keep the Islamic Republic afloat, viewing the conflict as a test of whether their partner can withstand prolonged US and Israeli military pressure. Consequently, the "fog of peace" remains thick, with both sides acting on distrust rather than a genuine path toward a treaty.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the making of the John Bachelor show. |
| 0:04.2 | I'm joined by my good colleague of many, many years, decades now, Bill Roshio, |
| 0:08.7 | Senior Fellow Foundation for the Defense of Democracy. |
| 0:12.2 | Bill and I are looking over the landscape today, see no change from Friday, if you will |
| 0:16.8 | recall there are multiple wars in Eurasia. |
| 0:20.6 | There's a potential for conflict in the new world, the Western Hemisphere. |
| 0:25.6 | There is no confidence in the remarks coming from Tehran or Washington as to where we are. |
| 0:33.6 | Fog of war, fog of diplomacy, fog of administration. We do have some things we can fix |
| 0:40.9 | before we turn to the day's events. The remarks by Gideon Rahman, the chief foreign correspondent |
| 0:50.9 | columnist for the Financial Times. |
| 0:57.2 | Sounds a bit like John Batchelor, so here we go. |
| 0:58.6 | I sound like Gideon. |
| 1:02.5 | The fog of war is a familiar idea, writes Mr. Rahman. |
| 1:05.8 | The U.S. and Iran are now introducing the world to a new concept. |
| 1:07.4 | The fog of peace. |
| 1:08.0 | Very clever. |
| 1:12.7 | A ceasefire is in place in the conflict between America, Israel, and Iran. |
| 1:18.8 | But little else is clear. The week began with the Americans saying the new peace talks were about to begin, and the Iranians denying it. Will the current ceasefire last beyond Wednesday? |
| 1:25.5 | As Iran offered to stop all nuclear enrichment? |
| 1:28.6 | Will the Strait of Hormuz stay closed or reopen? |
| 1:31.7 | A very good morning to you. |
| 1:33.7 | I believe we have some answers from those excellent rhetorical questions Mr. |
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