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S8 Ep763: By 2011, Baghdad was physically transformed by concrete blast walls institutionalizing sectarian division. Abdul-Ahad critiques Maliki's government for hollowing out the military through systemic corruption, turning units into "money-making machines." The

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 19 April 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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By 2011, Baghdad was physically transformed by concrete blast walls institutionalizing sectarian division. Abdul-Ahadcritiques Maliki's government for hollowing out the military through systemic corruption, turning units into "money-making machines." The failure of the 2012 "Friday of Anger" protests and the spillover of the Syrian civil war allowed ISIS to masquerade as "liberators" in Sunni cities like Mosul, exploiting deep-seated grievances against the oppressive central government. (5)
1918 BAGHDAD

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World with John Batchelor.

0:10.1

Here's John Bachelor.

0:12.4

Continuing my conversation with Kraith Abdul Ahad.

0:16.7

The new book is A stranger in your own city,

0:19.7

travels in the Middle East Long War.

0:22.2

It is years 2011, 2012, and 2013 on the eve of much, much more violence than even in that first decade following the American conquest and occupation of Baghdad and Iraq.

0:38.5

Heath, a very good evening again to you,

0:41.4

and we begin the conversation with a high school friend of yours,

0:46.4

whose name where Namdegar is Hassan.

0:49.5

You find him sheltering in his family's home

0:52.2

in the northern part of Baghdad behind locked doors.

0:56.7

This is a Baghdad that is unrecognizable from 15 years before.

1:01.6

It's divided into concrete blocks and also people are keeping neighborhoods of Shia,

1:07.8

Sunni, and everything in between.

1:10.5

Hassan, what does he tell you about his life

1:14.5

and his medical degree and how he is living? Good evening to you again. Good evening, John. I mean,

1:20.7

Hassan was a high school friend and we used to walk from my high school into his house when we ran away from school to avoid one of

1:29.4

these spontaneous demonstrations. But after the first phase of the civil war, trying to retrace

1:39.0

my footsteps, my route back into Hassan's house, I realized that, you know, the neighborhoods

1:46.7

have been divided. There are two walls now separating the high school from Hassan's house,

1:52.4

and that to go into that, one needs to leave one enclave, drive up and down a highway,

1:58.7

enter a second enclave to find another neighborhood.

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