S8 Ep756: 4. Anatol Lieven warns of a global recession fueled by oil shocks and Middle East conflict. He describes Donald Trump as a wrecking ball for American international reputation and diplomatic relations in Europe.
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 16 April 2026
⏱️ 9 minutes
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| 0:50.3 | We turn to Eurasia, but especially to Europe now. |
| 0:54.1 | Raw data suggests that the economies there are fragile, |
| 0:58.1 | and the troubles in the Middle East not resolved |
| 1:01.7 | make those governments now anticipate worst-case scenario. |
| 1:06.1 | It's not necessarily doomed, but things are not positive. |
| 1:09.8 | For example, Anatole, I spoke to our colleague |
| 1:13.0 | Judy Dempsey in Berlin in these last hours, and getting gas at noontime is advised in Berlin. |
| 1:21.4 | It's said to be capped at 220 euro, 222 euro per liter, which means it's being subsidized. |
| 1:29.2 | The same thing I'd heard from French farm country the week before, the Marine Le Pen lands. I'm told that Ireland is all |
| 1:36.2 | subsidizing and very badly dealing with the possible cutoff of oil. We're told that the last of the oil to leave the Hormuz straits |
| 1:47.9 | before the blockades were put in, |
| 1:49.7 | the Iranian threat and the actual U.S. Navy blockade |
| 1:54.5 | have reached the refineries, and there's no more coming. |
| 1:59.0 | So Europe right now is more than concerned about a downturn, |
| 2:04.6 | a sharp downturn, which will rile all the politics. And I point immediately to Germany. You and I watch it |
| 2:10.6 | very carefully. AFD is looking to win the Saxony-Althite election coming up, the state election, with an overwhelming |
| 2:20.4 | success. |
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