I'm John Betts, who is Edmund Fitten Brown of the Foundation for Defense of Democracy,

former ambassador to Yemen from the UK, former UN official for a charge to the whole region,

now at war, Ulyrajo Senior Fellow Foundation for Defense of Democracy.

In 1989, a long-haired 26-year-old took to the centerpiece of the revolt in his country of Hungary

and spoke out for freedom. Don't be afraid. We're not afraid, he said. That 26-year-old is now a

very exhausted Victor Orbot, who has just been defeated overwhelmingly, as far as I can tell, by people who used to vote for him.

He's been pushed aside.

This looks like good news, but I don't want to get ahead of this.

Help me, Edmund.

Is it good news that Edmund Fitton Brown, after visiting Vladimir Putin and shaking his hand in Moscow,

after receiving the kind words of the secretary, the vice president of United

States, Mr. Vans, is now asked to leave the room. Is this good news? Yes, John. This is

unqualified good news. It really is. And it's not often that we get to say that these days.

So let's enjoy it while we can. First of all, who is

most upset about this? Whose plans are most disrupted by this? It's Vladimir Putin. So Orban

was a sort of a fifth columnist within the European Union, who was highly sympathetic to Putin

and was frustrating European

efforts to support Ukraine and therefore was doing Putin's bidding on a certain level. So that's gone.

That means that we will now see the Europeans pass various measures in favour of Ukraine that were being held hostage

by Orban. Secondly, he was also sabotaging the EU from the inside, making it very difficult

for the EU to pursue any kind of policies. He would block things. And again, the fact that that's gone is good.

As long as the EU has also learned some lessons in the process, which is not to force

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