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This is John Bachelor, conversation with Ambassador Edmund Fit and Brown,

former UK ambassador to the Yemen now working with FD, after his

long time with the United Nations as an officer in this region of Middle East troubles,

asking him about Russia and China and how they see this conflict, Russia gains from the high

price of oil, China loses from not having access to the oil that it needs. And there are other

limitations here. Edmund is not discouraging that the confrontation could lead to a success

for the Trump administration in some fashion,

is Edmund Fitton Brown to explain.

More of this tonight.