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This is CBSI on the world.

I'm John Batchel with Nicholas Eberstadt.

His reissue of his Men Without Work, which was published in the middle of the second decade of the 21st century.

We're now in the third decade, and we've survived the pandemic that put everyone out of work momentarily.

Nick provides a chapter of some things that we can see that maybe change the argument, maybe do not.

Nick, one of the things that I'm struck by right now again and again is these numbers are changing not only for men, but also for women.

Do I read you correctly?

That women without work is a rising category.

Yes.

Well, unfortunately, the men without work problem that I described in the first edition is worse now than it was then.

You could almost draw a straight line from 1965 to the first edition of the book to where we are now six years later.

It's kind of uncanny.

But it looks as if other population groups may also be joining this flight from work, including people who are older

Americans, 55 plus, 65 plus, and now we're seeing some, I think, warning signs for prime age

women. I don't want to say it's a red flashing light, but maybe a yellow flashing light.

Is it a shock or is it a shift of the labor force?

Nick asked that question.

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