S8 Ep727: 12. Professor Daniel Rood: Daniel Rood recounts the discovery of a graveyard for enslaved people at the University of Georgia’s Baldwin Hall site. He argues for fully embracing this history to escape the "shadow of the great house" and understand alternat
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 11 April 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batcher with Daniel Rood. |
| 0:18.0 | His new book is In the Shadow of the Great House. |
| 0:22.2 | It's a metaphor for the plantation system that has survived four or five hundred years, |
| 0:27.0 | and I could only guess that it'll be used on the asteroid mining of the future. |
| 0:31.9 | However, right now, we have one more detail that is where Dan teaches. |
| 0:37.1 | It's very prestigious and storied University of Georgia, for heaven's sake. |
| 0:44.3 | And the University of Georgia has a building called Baldwin Hall, which they constructed some years in the 20th century, and discovered a graveyard there. |
| 0:53.8 | And what did they discover about the graveyard, Dan? |
| 0:56.9 | It's a revelation for how we've not dealt with our history. Yeah, so Baldwin Hall, to add another |
| 1:04.1 | layer of irony, houses the Department of Archaeology. And it is right across the street from my |
| 1:10.1 | office window. |
| 1:11.6 | And what I didn't know for the first three or four years I was teaching at University of Georgia |
| 1:16.3 | is what I was looking at when I looked at Baldwin Hall was the unacknowledged burial ground of enslaved |
| 1:22.2 | people from Athens, Georgia. |
| 1:26.0 | In 2015, they started a major renovation and expansion project. |
| 1:31.4 | The university did. |
| 1:33.3 | And in doing the digging, they found a number of interred bodies. |
| 1:38.5 | And they first claimed that they were, I don't know what their evidence for this was, |
| 1:43.7 | but the university claimed they were, quote, of European descent. |
| 1:48.0 | Several members of the black community in Athens differed strongly with that because they had always heard that enslaved people, maybe even their own ancestors, were actually buried there. |
| 1:59.9 | The black community had to push very hard for there to be a DNA analysis done, and it was found |
| 2:06.1 | indeed that the vast majority of the over 100 people that seemed to have been buried there |
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