I'm John Batchler. I welcome my colleague and friend David Livingston, Dr. Space of the Space Show.

This is Hotel Mars, episode N.

David is my co-pilot.

We're headed to the moon thanks to our colleague of longstanding Professor Hyme Beneroya of Rutgers University, Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering.

And Himes breakthrough, first out of the block book of many years past,

recommended everyone now because NASA's got new steps to the moon, to stay there,

not to come back after footsteps or a golf cart, no, to stay there.

And therefore, NASA will be

needing and reading and debating

Heim's book, Building Habitets on the Moon,

engineering approaches to lunar settlements.

I recommend to everyone

this book because

it first pictures

what it will be like when the settlements on the moon,

the bases on the moon, whatever they're called eventually, have to shield human beings and

also provide energy and exploration and science for people back on earth.

Professor, a very good evening to you. Once again, you were so far out front, it took

Jared Isaacman, the new administrator, to catch up, and he did it. He's a spacewalker,

he's a jet pilot, he's an astronaut, he's flown his own private missions on the Dragon

capsule, and he says we're going to the

moon, and I believe him. But in order to go there, I learned from you over many years.

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