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S8 Ep704: 9. Life in Tehran and the Hope for Regime Collapse Guest: Jonathan Sayeh and Bill Roggio Summary: Jonathan Sayeh reports on the declining legitimacy of the Iranian regime among the population. While desertions are increasing, the IRGC remains resilient, a

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🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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9. Life in Tehran and the Hope for Regime Collapse Guest: Jonathan Sayeh and Bill Roggio Summary:Jonathan Sayeh reports on the declining legitimacy of the Iranian regime among the population. While desertions are increasing, the IRGC remains resilient, and many Iranians fear the regime surviving despite the destruction of national infrastructure.,, (9)

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U.S. Iran weigh peace plan as Trump's warning nears deadline. Peace plan. Very attractive words.

0:58.7

They come up often in war fighting and then they go away. But Bill Rajo of the Senior Fellow for

1:06.1

the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, my colleague and co-host, and we're very pleased to welcome

1:11.9

Jonathan Saya of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a Tehran resident once upon a time,

1:19.2

now with very good information about the people of Iran, not the IRGC, not the besiege,

1:26.2

that the 92 million people who are living under this bombardment.

1:32.0

And here every day different versions of what will make it stop, what it constitutes success.

1:38.9

How's the leadership doing? We don't even know their names. What about the Ayatollah?

1:43.4

We've never seen him since the

1:44.8

original strike. Jonathan, a very good day to you. What can you tell us about life in Tehran?

1:50.2

Last week we talked about right after the bombs stop. Everybody wants to eat something sweet.

1:57.8

Is there any turn in the last several days, first on the president's speech last week about the goals, and now the president's threat, has that led to a change of behavior in Tehran? Good day to you. Good day to you. I wouldn't say it's led to a change of behavior, but ultimately the concern by the average

2:19.4

Iranian is that should this war end or fail to lead to regime collapse in a meaningful way

2:29.3

or somehow fail to pave the way for Iranians to initiate a systemic change in Tehran, that would be a

2:37.8

catastrophic turn of events for them. Now, in that capacity, of course, they are worried about some

2:43.4

of the remarks coming from the president when he threatens critical infrastructure.

2:49.2

I think the question then is, should there be a devastating attack against, let's say,

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