S8 Ep700: 5. Zimmerman contextualizes Apollo 8 within the chaos of 1968, including the Vietnam War and social unrest. He argues that while the mission demonstrated democratic achievement, NASA’s top-down structure mirrored Soviet models. This centralized approach e

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5. Zimmerman contextualizes Apollo 8 within the chaos of 1968, including the Vietnam War and social unrest. He argues that while the mission demonstrated democratic achievement, NASA’s top-down structure mirrored Soviet models. This centralized approach eventually led to the program's decline after the moon landing. (5)
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0:00.0	This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchel, continuing with Bob Zimmerman, author of Genesis,
0:05.8	the story of Apollo 8, the first man flight to another world at Christmas time. The Saturn 5,
0:13.1	with Apollo 8, autopit, launches on December 21st. It is now Christmas Eve, December 24th. They are approaching the moon.
0:23.9	They've been inside the moon's gravity for some time now. Frank Borman, Jim Lovell, and Bill
0:32.1	Anders. Bob, thank you for continuing this exciting story, even though I know it's going to come out all right.
0:38.5	This is a moment where everybody worried on Earth paying attention.
0:42.8	Two acronyms that NASA used again and again.
0:47.9	LOS of LOI, lunar orbital injection, and then loss of signal, LOS.
0:53.8	Let's deal with both of them because these are dramatic moments.
0:57.1	They're going very fast.
0:59.5	They're in the moon's gravity pull.
1:02.7	The moon is pulling them towards it.
1:05.2	They're outside of the Earth's gravity.
1:07.4	However, they've got to, in some way, put themselves into lunar orbit.
1:12.2	How do they do that, Bob?
1:14.4	It's interesting.
1:15.4	On the entire three-day journey to the moon, the way the capsule is oriented, they never saw the moon.
1:21.0	They actually were pointing back to the Earth with the engine behind them, pointing at the Moon.
1:26.0	So their windows always showed the earth.
1:28.1	It wasn't until just before landing, just before reaching the moon, that they finally turned
1:34.3	the capsule around. But they did first, they had to fire the SPS engine. Now, the SPS engine
1:39.9	was on the service module of the lunar capsule.
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