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S8 Ep699: 1. Bob Zimmerman introduces the crew: Frank Borman, Jim Lovell, and Bill Anders. He highlights their intense dedication and military backgrounds. The discussion covers the high-stakes decision to launch the Saturn V rocket and the essential support provid

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 6 April 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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1. Bob Zimmerman introduces the crew: Frank Borman, Jim Lovell, and Bill Anders. He highlights their intense dedication and military backgrounds. The discussion covers the high-stakes decision to launch the Saturn V rocket and the essential support provided by the astronauts' families in the NASA village. (1)

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with Bob Zimmerman, my longtime good colleague in the author of The Story of Apollo 8, Genesis,

0:12.3

the first man flight to another world. It is January, 1967. Apollo 1 is on the launch pad being checked out by three senior astronauts.

0:24.1

And then, Bob, this catastrophe is easy to remember for all of us who were watching at the time

0:30.2

because it was a blow to NASA.

0:32.6

It was a blow that had not been expected.

0:36.2

They weren't actually blasting off.

0:38.3

What happened, Bob, in Apollo 1?

0:40.7

It's interesting, John, but this was a case where they were not careful.

0:45.9

And that's why the failure happened.

0:49.2

This was a launch pad dress rehearsal countdown.

0:52.8

The three astronauts, Gus Griss from the commander,

0:56.5

Ed White, who is also an experienced astronaut,

0:58.9

he had done the first space, American Spacewalk,

1:01.3

and Roger Chaffey, who had never flown in space before.

1:03.8

These guys were in the capsule in their spacesuits,

1:06.1

and they were doing with mission control the equivalent of a dresser capsule countdown,

1:10.2

preparing for the first

1:11.4

Apollo mission on manned mission in orbit hopefully in 67 and at some point there was a spark in the

1:20.8

capsule and within less than a minute and a half those three men burned to death suffocated

1:26.7

mostly because the oxygen burned.

1:28.3

And there was no, the heat killed them as well as the lack of oxygen.

1:31.9

They were dead within 75 seconds.

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