S8 Ep685: PREVIEW FOR LATER. GUESTS: John Batchelor and Henry Sokolski. SUMMARY: John Batchelor and Henry Sokolski analyze how modern warfare in Ukraine, characterized by inexpensive drones and robotic systems, was largely unanticipated. They highlight the signific
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 3 April 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel, a conversation with my colleague Henry Sikolsky about the Pentagon of the 20th century. |
| 0:07.3 | Did it project? |
| 0:08.7 | Did it imagine? |
| 0:09.6 | Did it game out? |
| 0:11.1 | Warfare would look like Ukraine. |
| 0:14.1 | Robots. |
| 0:15.6 | Drones. |
| 0:16.7 | In the air. |
| 0:17.7 | Systems analyzing who's alive, who's not. |
| 0:21.1 | Leaning heavily towards the robots winning. |
| 0:24.5 | Was that imagined? |
| 0:25.6 | And I don't mean expensive robots. |
| 0:28.2 | I mean inexpensive drones made in factories that are underground |
| 0:32.4 | or from the barn of an entrepreneur. |
| 0:36.7 | Here's Henry to comment. |
| 0:38.8 | More of this later tonight. |
| 0:40.9 | It was imagined slightly. |
| 0:43.7 | I mean, in the 70s, there was work at Rand. |
| 0:46.5 | James Digby comes to mind on precision guidance. |
| 0:49.8 | But I think the extent of it and how far it would go and how quickly it would go once it got going. |
| 0:55.3 | No, I think no one out to anticipate it is. |
| 0:58.6 | The Ukrainians are claiming that they are killing with unmanned systems, |
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