This is John Batchler, conversation with colleague Mary Kissel, Executive Vice President Stevens

Incorporated, former senior advisor to the Secretary of State, Mr. Pompeo, on the transition

proposed for Cuba, from the dictators and bullies of these many decades into a legitimate

democracy that needs rebuilding from the ground up.

Mary comments on what appears to be a Castro grandson entertaining himself as the leader of a new

Cuba. Mary has a blunt opinion about his credibility. Here's Mary Kisselaon underway, transition at Cuba, but when and how remains to be determined.

More later.

You know, Castro was a killer, and he made a misery of millions of people's lives over many, many decades.

And so, you know, the idea that somehow this grandson has his hands clean or is a

worthwhile leader, I think that that assertion should be considered very, very carefully.

It could be that Marco Rubio believes that, like the current Delci-Rodriguez regime in Venezuela,

that there has to be a transitional period and, you know, perhaps the Castro family controls the

security forces and therefore it's important to buy them off and get them, you know,

not to commit even more atrocities going out in a blaze of glory, et cetera.

But it is disgusting to see, frankly, to see, you know, a Castro appear on CNN and be treated like a legitimate leader. He's not.