S8 Ep669: GUEST: JONATHAN SCHANZER (8) HEADLINE: Jonathan Schanzer Evaluates Growing Dissonance within the NATO Alliance (9) SUMMARY: Jonathan Schanzer examines whether NATO is beginning to "crack up" amid disagreements over state-sponsored terrorism. He warns that
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🗓️ 31 March 2026
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GUEST: JONATHAN SCHANZER (8)
HEADLINE: Jonathan Schanzer Evaluates Growing Dissonance within the NATOAlliance (9)
SUMMARY: Jonathan Schanzerexamines whether NATO is beginning to "crack up" amid disagreements over state-sponsored terrorism. He warns that internal divisions threaten an alliance that has served as a crucial Russian bulwark for decades. (10)
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel, a conversation with Jonathan Shanzer of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies about NATO, but not here. |
| 0:09.0 | NATO and Britain, John reports on a TV program he participated in a debate. Is this the end of NATO? |
| 0:16.1 | John reacts, but the question is unanswered. More of this tonight. Well, look, the fact that you have |
| 0:24.1 | Western countries that are refusing to help the lone Western superpower in a fight against |
| 0:28.7 | the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism that is aligned with both Russia and China, |
| 0:34.3 | I mean, the dissonance here is deafening. This is an extremely difficult moment to watch. |
| 0:41.1 | I would argue that all this talk, and I was on a British television show the other day where they were |
| 0:46.5 | talking about, you know, whether NATO is beginning to crack up, whether this is the end of NATO as we knew it. |
| 0:52.4 | That is obviously not a good thing. |
| 0:55.4 | You know, NATO has been an important alliance structure for the United States, for the Europeans. |
| 1:00.2 | It's been an important bulwark against Russia, you know, I mean, for decades now, for 70 years. |
| 1:07.9 | So these are the sorts of things that, you know, make one nervous. |
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