S8 Ep663: 3. Following the 1783 peace treaty, the family moved to Europe, where "John Carter" reclaimed his true identity as John Barker Church. A high-stakes businessman with a high risk tolerance, he settled the family in London’s elite Mayfair district. Despite
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🗓️ 30 March 2026
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3. Following the 1783 peace treaty, the family moved to Europe, where "John Carter" reclaimed his true identity as John Barker Church. A high-stakes businessman with a high risk tolerance, he settled the family in London’s elite Mayfair district. Despite her English surroundings, Angelica remained a vocal American patriot, often acting as a cultural mediator between Dutch, English, and French societies. She hosted prestigious figures like Abigail Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and the Marquis de Lafayette. In London, she engaged with the "Blue Stocking" movement, surrounding herself with other highly educated, influential, and sophisticated women. (3)
1789 NEW YORK
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| 0:05.7 | BlackRock Investment Trust has a lot working for you. |
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| 0:13.0 | authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. |
| 0:19.9 | This is CBSI on the world. |
| 0:22.3 | I'm John Bats for spending time with the author and historian Molly Beer of Angelica, New York. |
| 0:28.7 | Angelica Schuyler Carter and her children and her husband set sail for Europe following the agreement that there will be a peace treaty |
| 0:41.8 | between the United Kingdom, King George III and his court, and the founders of the United |
| 0:47.5 | States of America. It so happens that our heroine, Angelica, arrives in Paris. |
| 0:54.8 | At the same time, the negotiators for the peace treated, the peace of Paris 1783, are finishing |
| 1:01.5 | their work under a strange sky, lots of clouds and overcast. |
| 1:07.8 | What is it, Molly, that they sail with that summer, and what does it do to the economy of continental Europe and America? |
| 1:15.9 | Yes. So when they make their Atlantic crossing after the war has resolved, you expect bright skies, but instead they get these like blood red sunsets and their sunrises and sunsets |
| 1:28.7 | and this like, they call it a dry haze. |
| 1:32.5 | You know, it turns out that it's an Icelandic volcano that is erupting, but it is going to cause |
| 1:37.2 | acid rain and weather changes over Europe that will reduce harvests and stunt crops and result, you know, and contribute to the |
| 1:47.0 | French Revolution when it gets started. |
| 1:48.8 | They've gone to Paris for business reasons because John Carter suddenly becomes John |
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