S8 Ep650: PREVIEW FOR LATER. (9) HEADLINE: The Rapid Pace of Lunar Exploration GUEST: Bob Zimmerman SUMMARY: Bob Zimmerman evaluates NASA's ambitious lunar landing schedule through 2030. He discusses Intuitive Machines’ new low-slung lander design, intended to fix
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HEADLINE: The Rapid Pace of Lunar Exploration GUEST: Bob Zimmerman SUMMARY: Bob Zimmerman evaluates NASA's ambitious lunar landing schedule through 2030. He discusses Intuitive Machines’ new low-slung lander design, intended to fix previous tipping issues, and the challenges of meeting aggressive, Musk-driven mission timelines. (10)
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel, speaking with Bob Zimmerman about the plan from Jared Isaacman, the new |
| 0:07.0 | administrator at NASA, to set a tremendous pace between now and 2030 for launching to the moon, |
| 0:15.4 | landing on the moon, robotic explorations of the moon. I asked Bob, can they keep up this pace? This is a SpaceX plus pace |
| 0:23.8 | from an organization that's been launching every couple of years. Bob's answer is in-depth, |
| 0:30.8 | is Bob on the ambition of Jared Isaacman and NASA. SpaceX can do it. |
| 0:37.5 | Well, this is, John, the launches, I think they could do it. |
| 0:40.9 | The launches, yes. |
| 0:42.3 | The landers is a different question. |
| 0:44.6 | Whether the three to five lunar landing companies that exist right now, |
| 0:52.0 | only one of which has successfully landed on the moon, whether they could |
| 0:55.9 | meet this pace, ramp up, I agree, is very questionable. Once again, this is an Elon Musk timetable. |
| 1:03.2 | His goal of 30 missions in three years from 27 to 30, he ain't going to meet it. But he's pushing |
| 1:09.4 | for that so that we can get to it eventually. |
| 1:12.5 | And so that's, I think, the thing. In conjunction with this, John, during this announcement, |
| 1:16.7 | and this is the next story, they announced that intuitive machines, one of those Lunar Lander |
| 1:21.5 | companies has won $180 million new NASA launch lander contract. This is for an additional mission to one contracts that have already existed. |
| 1:31.4 | And what I found most interesting, they released a graphic showing what their new lunar lander |
| 1:36.9 | would look like. |
| 1:38.1 | And if you remember, intuitive machines tried twice to land on the moon. |
| 1:42.2 | And both times I noted that, boy, their lander is really |
| 1:45.8 | tall. It's got a high center of gravity. I don't like that. And both times, the lander hit |
| 1:52.1 | the ground and tilted over, fell over. And that's why both missions were failure. It actually |
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