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S8 Ep647: 5. This discussion focuses on the unreliability of AI, noting its tendency to "hallucinate" and apologize for errors. Experts suggest the future belongs to those with imagination who can test AI relentlessly, warning of a class divide between AI-savvy wor

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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5. This discussion focuses on the unreliability of AI, noting its tendency to "hallucinate" and apologize for errors. Experts suggest the future belongs to those with imagination who can test AIrelentlessly, warning of a class dividebetween AI-savvy workers and those left behind. (5)

1907 PETERSBURG SOVIET

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchler. Artificial intelligence and work. It concerns you, and if not yet, soon enough, or perhaps

0:24.6

you're behind. We are doing what we can to stay even with the revelations of AI and work. I welcome

0:32.2

my two colleagues on this endeavor, this expedition. Jim McTagg, he is in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania,

0:39.4

the best county in the Keystone State,

0:43.1

the former Washington editor of Barron's now a novelist in Lancaster,

0:47.0

fencing with AI.

0:48.8

And Alan Tonelson, my guide and guru,

0:51.1

on manufacturing and trade for many years,

0:54.1

he blogs at Reality check. Most importantly,

0:56.8

he's in Prince George's County within shouting distance of the nation's capital. And he also contends

1:02.6

with AI. So we're learning together. We begin with an anecdote that is a continuation of a conversation

1:08.6

Jim and I had about the economy of Lancaster.

1:12.1

The economy of Lancaster is the economy of Keystone State. The economy of Pennsylvania,

1:16.2

you bet, is the economy of the United States, which we're watching very carefully right now

1:20.4

because of the violence in the Middle East and the global troubles with oil and natural gas.

1:31.6

We begin, however, with French pastry. Jim, a very good day to you. As I recall, you traveled to the Park City Mall and you had a conversation, a very

1:37.6

happy conversation with a young woman pushing a cart filled with extremely attractive looking and expensive pastry made

1:47.8

by her husband, a French chef. It was all very happy and we made ourselves hungry and we made

1:54.5

the audience hungry. And I learned later that sweets are what people in Tehran do after a bombing

2:00.5

raid.

2:01.4

It's compulsive of them.

2:02.8

They take their flat bread and they smear jam and anything sweet on it and eat ravenously.

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