S8 Ep642: STREAMING THEMAKING OF THE JOHN BATCHELOR SHOW, INCLUDING REBECCA GRANT, RICK FISHER, STEVE YATS AND GORDON CHANG, 3-25-2026.
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
4.5 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 26 March 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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STREAMING THEMAKING OF THE JOHN BATCHELOR SHOW, INCLUDING REBECCA GRANT, RICK FISHER, STEVE YATS AND GORDON CHANG, 3-25-2026.
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Rick Fisher and Gordon Chang. China’s Strategic Undersea Mapping and Submarine Expansion. Rick Fisher discusses China’s long-term effort to map the ocean floor as part of a drive for global maritime hegemony. This mapping is essential for preparing for submarine warfare, with China projected to match or exceed US submarine numbers within a decade. Fisher highlights the development of advanced undersea sensor networks and the stealthy Type 095 nuclear submarine, which utilizes sophisticated noise-reduction technology. He also notes China’s strategy of weaponizing its commercial fishing and cargo fleets for espionage. By the late 2030s, China could achieve unacceptable naval parity. (1)
Rebecca Grant and Gordon Chang. The USS Gerald R. Ford’s Combat Success and Technical Innovations. Rebecca Grant evaluates the USS Gerald R. Ford’s recent combat operations in the Middle East, noting its ability to sustain power despite a minor laundry fire. She emphasizes technical upgrades, specifically the electromagnetic launch system, which allows for more sensitive launches of both heavy aircraft and light drones. The Ford features a redesigned deck and high-capacity weapons elevators that can lift 24,000 pounds, more than double the capacity of previous carriers. Grant asserts that the US maintains a significant advantage due to superior operational experience and advanced weaponry. (2)
Steve Yates and Gordon Chang. China’s Strategic Energy Concerns and the Post-Conflict Iran Landscape. Steve Yates examines the impact of the Iran conflict on US-China relations, noting the postponement of the Trump-Xi summit. China is assisting Iran with drone components and missiles while remaining heavily dependent on Iranian energy imports. Yates explains that Beijing’s post-conflict priority is maintaining privileged, discounted access to energy resources without US-imposed sanctions. He also discusses China’s increasing pressure on the Philippines regarding South China Sea energy development. Ultimately, China’s export-driven economy remains vulnerable to US leverage and energy supply disruptions. (3)
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| 0:00.0 | Here we go, Gordon. |
| 0:01.0 | Here we go, Gordon. And a very good day to you. I read the headlines from London, remember there are hours ahead of us, ready for lunchtime, and so they've digested the bad news from Eurasia. |
| 0:49.9 | Leading number one on the list is NATO chief Riles Europe by backing Trump's war in Ukraine |
| 0:59.3 | in Iran. Excuse me, I'm slipping wars here in Iran. This is the NATO chief Rudy, who is so eager |
| 1:07.7 | to press the advantage in Ukraine and also to endorsees the preparation for a much |
| 1:16.2 | larger war, the Russian Federation versus NATO. Now, not exactly switching horses, but is |
| 1:23.1 | certainly looking to the Iran conflict as a way of uniting his charge as the NATO chief. |
| 1:31.9 | But I welcome my colleagues Rick Fisher of the International Assessment of Strategy Center, |
| 1:37.7 | and I believe we're joined by our colleague Gordon Chang. |
| 1:42.8 | Gordon, it's making of the show, so let us see. |
| 1:46.2 | Are you here and can you hear me well? |
| 1:50.4 | Not yet. |
| 1:51.3 | I don't see. |
| 1:51.8 | Rick, do you see Gordon? |
| 1:53.9 | Yes, I do. |
| 1:55.1 | And I see Gordon, and I don't know if Gordon sees us. |
| 1:58.8 | Gordon, my recommendation is that you go off and come back if you can hear me. |
| 2:05.0 | Just unplug where you are. |
| 2:08.2 | I don't use the phone. |
| 2:12.5 | They're unaware, Rick. |
| 2:14.3 | Let me write them a note. |
| 2:17.3 | Gordon, we can hear you and see you. |
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