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I'm John Batchel with Alejandro Pina Exclusa, Venezuela, an opposition leader.

He's traveling in Europe in exile because of the brutality of the regime these many years.

And Ernesto Arouj, a former foreignist of the Republic of Brazil,

who's traveling benignly in Africa. But I'm keen on Lula to Silva's election opportunities

this year because there are three big ones coming. Peru first and Colombia, also important.

But Brazil dwarfs everything given the last years in which it would appear the left of center

has dominated the conversation and also used lawfare effectively.

Ernesto, the Caracas situation, a Havana situation.

Do I say correctly that Lula de Silva has not been shy about associating himself

with the Havana regime and with the Caracas regime to date to this point?

Is that a consideration in this presidential campaign of Lula de Silva versus the much younger

Flavio Bolsonaro?

Oh yes, John. Totally correct. For his whole career, Flavio Bolsonaro. Oh, yes, John.

Totally correct.

For his whole career, Lula has associated himself with the dictatorship in Cuba and

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