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We turned to remarks by the Secretary General of the United Nations,

Antonio Guterres. The Secretary General said there are, quote, reasonable grounds, end quote,

to believe both sides in the U.S. Israel conflict with Iran may have committed war crimes,

citing attacks on energy infrastructure and civilians. The Secretary General warned the

conflict suggested is rapidly escalating with severe humanitarian and global economic consequences,

suggested Israel sought to draw the U.S. into war, argued Washington holds the key to ending it.

Gutera has also stressed the urgency of de-escalation,

warning that crisis is spiraling out of control

and could have far-reaching global impacts.

Professor, is the UN the way forward?

It's not been participating in any of these decisions till now.

Is it a forum that can be used to stop the fighting?

No, it cannot.

Once its change took place, there's one Israel and there, you know, 60 or 70 Arab nations

or other nations that are implacable to it, it can't be a nuclear broker.

If you looked at the way in which it

operated in Gaza, if it was anything, it was an arm with respect to Hamas with whom it worked

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