S8 Ep582: 3. Cline examines the varying fates of Egypt and emerging Levantine groups after the collapse. Egypt is described as "merely coping," struggling with internal anarchy and a delayed reaction to regional droughts while retreating from its previous internati
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🗓️ 15 March 2026
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3. Cline examines the varying fates of Egypt and emerging Levantine groups after the collapse. Egypt is described as "merely coping," struggling with internal anarchy and a delayed reaction to regional droughts while retreating from its previous international prominence. Conversely, the power vacuum allowed smaller entities like the Israelites and Philistines to flourish. Cline discusses the archaeological debate regarding whether the Israelites were local highland dwellers who transformed or external migrants. He also identifies the Philistines as part of the Sea Peoples, noting recent DNA evidence from Ashkelon that confirms their mixed ancestry and Mediterranean origins. (3)
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Bachelor. This is the John Bachelor Show. Professor Eric Klein. his new book is 1177 BC. The year civilization collapsed. And I checked off Troy early on because it's a very nice stage set. It doesn't work. Because Troy can be reproduced all across this vast landscape. Cities that are doing very well until the early part of the 12th century |
| 0:39.7 | BC, that BC, that's between 1,200 BC and about 1150 or 1130 BC collapse, and they don't rebuild them. |
| 0:48.3 | In fact, in Troy 7A, I believe, Professor, there's a 16-year-old girl's body found. |
| 0:55.4 | Her feet are burned. |
| 0:56.7 | And there's reason to believe that there were arrowheads in there. |
| 1:00.1 | So something hit Troy 7. |
| 1:01.8 | At the same time, we see collapse and no rebuilding over in on the Greek peninsula. |
| 1:08.2 | So let's go to the battle scene that you reproduce here |
| 1:11.6 | the naval people the naval battle will see peoples at medinette habu what am i |
| 1:16.6 | looking at what is this tell us well what you're looking at is one of the only records we |
| 1:21.2 | have left to us of the sea peoples it is a huge drawing accompanied by hieroglyphics that Ramsey's the third put up on his mortuary temple at what we now call Medanit Habu. |
| 1:35.3 | It's down near the valley of the Kings by Luxor in Egypt. |
| 1:39.3 | And this is one of the two basic records we've got of these sea peoples. |
| 1:46.0 | They did come earlier. |
| 1:47.0 | There was an earlier wave about 30 years previously in the time of Mernepta. |
| 1:52.0 | But what we're looking at at Medinat Habu is the second wave and the final one. |
| 1:59.0 | They never come back again. |
| 2:00.0 | There's no third wave. And Ramsey tells us that they |
| 2:04.0 | came by land and they came by sea. It's almost like Paul Revere. And what you're looking at in the |
| 2:11.0 | picture is the naval battle. We're not quite sure where it took place. It's probably somewhere |
| 2:15.8 | in the Nile Delta would be our best guess. |
| 2:19.1 | But it's such a detailed portrayal that you can see the different types of ships. |
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