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Speaking with colleague, Marianne O'Gradie, the America's editor at the Wall Street Journal editorial page about Venezuela.

What is the plan?

Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, has a plan, but when?

When do we get to a democracy?

Right now, Caracas is being governed by the same gang that was governing before Maduro

was taken to New York to be prosecuted.

So, going slow, maybe too slow.

Here's Mary to explain. Much more of this tonight.

Well, the administration keeps saying that this is part, what they're doing is part of a transitional

process, which means that for now they're stabilizing

things. They're going to get the economy up and running by letting, taking the Venezuelan

oil, selling it on the market, giving the billions of dollars to the regime. Once that's stabilized,

then they say there'll be this transition.

But many of the hardliners who are really quite nasty people like Diazado Cabeo that have used the repression to keep the Venezuelans in line, many of those people are still in their jobs.

So it's unclear how they are supposed to be

removed. But I would say that Marco Rubio's intention at this point is still this transition

process that will eventually get Venezuela to new elections, although there is no timeline in the sense that, you know, by November

we'll be here and by next year we'll be there. We don't know any of it.