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Today. I'm John Batchel with Ivana Stradner of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy,

who is my guide on how information warfare influence seeking the media and also advertising

works to the to the advance of the Russian Federation in the contest in Ukraine and throughout

Europe and certainly directing its attention on the election in Hungary

is important because Hungary is one of the three states, two states, in the EU and NATO,

that right now is objecting to supporting Ukraine.

Ivana, the GRU officers at the Russian embassy in Budapest.

How do they work?

What is it that they can do with television, with social media, with advertising?

Okay, so on one side, we do already know the Russian script,

how they're weaponizing information through social media, social media

influencers, cyber attacks, journalists, filling the blank. So we already know how the Kremlin

works. But you know, John, you're absolutely right. We have to stop admiring problems. We have to

find a solution. And the solution is actually

to put Russia on the defensive. Number one, I think exposing Russian intelligence apparatus

when it comes to this. And Russian tactics is a step in the right direction. Second thing,

we really have to explain to the population how

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