S8 Ep517: Craig Unger traces Trump's political ascent back to his 1987 Moscow trip, suggesting Russian connections and talking points have influenced his foreign policy for forty years. 16.
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 26 February 2026
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Craig Unger traces Trump's political ascent back to his 1987 Moscow trip, suggesting Russian connections and talking points have influenced his foreign policy for forty years. 16.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchew with my colleague Craig Unger, whose substact page is telling the story of American Compromat and House |
| 0:23.1 | of Trump, House of Putin. So the short version is the substack page, the lengthy part with the |
| 0:28.7 | footnotes and the connections to investigation, as Craig says, a lot of it, a great deal of this is |
| 0:34.8 | open source at the FBI, is in the two books American Compromont in House of Putin, House of Trump. |
| 0:40.7 | It is easier to see things many years later than you could see at the time. |
| 0:44.7 | And Craig, this is right before Donald Trump comes down, the golden escalator to announce his candidacy. |
| 0:51.1 | He had run for the presidency before. |
| 0:53.6 | We need to recover that. This wasn't a sudden idea of a man |
| 0:57.4 | looking to get his name in front of the American people in a year in which the presumption was |
| 1:03.5 | Mrs. Clinton was going to be the candidate for the Democrats. The presumption was that Mrs. Clinton |
| 1:07.9 | was going to sweep the field. When did he first think about running for |
| 1:11.8 | the presidency and who was he connected to then or how did he figure he needed bigger connections for |
| 1:18.8 | the next time he ran? Well, we need to go back nearly 40 years to 1987, really, when he started to |
| 1:25.5 | run for the 1988 presidential nomination. And July of 1987 was Trump's |
| 1:35.5 | first trip to Moscow. And when he came back from that, I mean, it was sort of startling, |
| 1:41.8 | but he was known as this brash, sort of vulgar playboy, |
| 1:47.2 | and suddenly he's running for president. |
| 1:49.4 | And that was a shock to everyone, I think. |
| 1:52.3 | But among other things, as soon as he came back, he took out a full-page ad in the New York |
| 1:59.6 | Times, the Washington Post, and the Boston Globe. |
| 2:02.7 | And this was an ad that essentially put forth the same kind of foreign policy we're seeing |
| 2:09.6 | that he's trying to enact today. He was effectively dismantling the Western Alliance and America's alliance with Japan. So he took out a full-page ad |
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