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S8 Ep513: Gregory Copley reports that President Zelensky warns Putin is untrustworthy as the war reaches four years, while Copley suggests the conflict persists primarily because of continued external Western funding and arms. 15.

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🗓️ 25 February 2026

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Gregory Copley reports that President Zelensky warns Putin is untrustworthy as the war reaches four years, while Copley suggests the conflict persists primarily because of continued external Western funding and arms. 15.
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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor with my colleague Gregory Copley, Defense and Foreign Affairs, author of Noble State.

0:22.1

The headline, again in London, Financial Times, I'm keen on the FT because it's completely

0:27.4

different than anything I learned as a student.

0:31.8

This is the Oxbridge Labor Left.

0:35.2

They're very smart.

0:37.3

They're devoted journeymen to journalism and to travel. They speak for

0:43.1

Europe and it's in English, so I'm comfortable. It's not my English, but it's very good English.

0:49.5

And I learned from their point of view, I assume they have no electoral college votes. I assume they don't

0:55.5

have a dog in the fight. But Vladimir Mazelensky reads the headline, says war in Ukraine at

1:03.7

beginning of the end. In an FT interview, the Ukrainian president urges President Trump to see through

1:10.6

Russia's games.

1:12.5

Gregory, there are lengthy quotes here, but it comes to this. Mr. Zelensky says that

1:17.1

Vladimir Putin is untrustworthy, that he represents a false face, that his maximalist demands

1:23.7

have never ebbed, and that he will not be satisfied with the Darnbas or with a promise not

1:29.1

to have Ukraine and NATO, he will come back and back and back. And if you give him a ceasefire,

1:35.1

he'll rebuild his army and attack again. Whether that's true or false, it's the four-year

1:40.5

anniversary. As I understand the Kremlin's response to a spokesperson was,

1:45.9

we've always been ready to talk about peace, however, and then a restatement of the maximalist

1:51.1

demands.

1:52.1

Again, this comes after four years.

1:54.5

It appears to me that the easiest course for all sides, EU, NATO, the U.S., the Kremlin, Ukraine is to continue

2:03.8

the war. Is that correct? Good evening to you. Good evening. Well, the war will continue as long as

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