S8 Ep506: Jonathan Sayeh describes growing internal Iranian dissent, where students favor a pre-1979 Persian identity and the Crown Prince over the current "occupying" Islamic Republic of Iran. 9.
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🗓️ 24 February 2026
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Jonathan Sayeh describes growing internal Iranian dissent, where students favor a pre-1979 Persian identity and the Crown Prince over the current "occupying" Islamic Republic of Iran. 9.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel. I'm joined by Janet Hsayah of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, a research fellow who is a voice on understanding Tehran. |
| 0:28.0 | He's born in Tehran. He understands the Iranian mood right now perfectly. |
| 0:34.1 | And I read a cavalcade of contradictory headlines from Reuters |
| 0:38.7 | because the London reporting is widespreadly from positive to gloomy. |
| 0:47.5 | For example, Iran and U.S. to meet on Thursday for talks. |
| 0:52.3 | For example, Tehran is ready for nuclear concessions if the U.S. to meet on Thursday for talks. For example, Tehran is ready for nuclear concessions if |
| 0:56.6 | the U.S. meets demands. For example, Iranian students protest for second day at some |
| 1:03.2 | universities, and then this one from the F.T. London. Iran agreed secret shoulder-fired missile deal with Russia. |
| 1:13.6 | Jonathan, a very good evening to you. |
| 1:15.4 | It's supposed to be contradictory. |
| 1:16.9 | It's not supposed to tell me what's really going on. |
| 1:19.4 | However, I depend on your intuition here about this mixture of headlines. |
| 1:24.7 | Out of London, it's all Reuters. |
| 1:27.0 | Iran wants to talk if. Iran buys |
| 1:30.1 | shoulder-fired missiles if, and Iranian students protest if. Where are all the ifs pointing us? |
| 1:36.7 | Good evening to you, Jonathan. Good evening to you. I think the main first if that you mentioned |
| 1:42.7 | comes down to Tehran and Washington. This has been |
| 1:46.0 | their tactic for the longest time. They never flat out as have ever ruled out negotiations. |
| 1:51.6 | Even the Supreme Leader himself multiple times has said, we will negotiate, but I'm skeptical. |
| 1:57.5 | And now we're hearing the same thing coming from officials. So that is really a diplomatic |
| 2:01.2 | signal saying that they're still going to negotiate. So should there be another strike, at least from |
| 2:06.7 | their perspective, Tehran can claim that they never ruled out negotiations, hence the war is illegitimate. |
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